Theres a lot to be said here, still. The fact that the judge who presided over the child welfare case and the criminal case was the same individual is absolutely a conflict of interest. I appreciate this whole blog just want to give you a heads up. Whether or not Steve Downs was in some way behind the shooting, the man who fired the weapon was a stranger to Diane. He was buried at burial place, Arizona. Makes no difference to me. Doesnt change the fact that it was still a conflict of interest. This is to avoid the conflict of interest that we read about above. Speculative. Get Notified when Robert Arthur Knickerbocker's info changes. Growing up, Diane had felt like an outsider and kids had been cruel towards her because of her real or imagined ugly duckling looks and demeanor. Leave a memory or share a photo or video below to show your support. Dianes father tried to hire Melvin Belli, but the judge refused to give him some time to prepare and come back to the US. I am so tired of the victims being forgotten. Jeff, you mention being harsh as if there was a justification for it. Add a Memory Send a note, share a story or upload a photo. This is a conflict of interest. She repeated it years later at school. Resides in Phoenix, AZ. (Yes, speculative). Pinterest is an online pinboard. I mean if a guy admits to killing children over and over, shouldnt we pay attention to that? He could not during the marriage so he walked away. While not evidence of guilt or innocence, it is certainly worth noting as part of the overall wrongs perpetrated during this fiasco of a trial and subsequent appeals. Not giving you free reign here. Q. http://sputniknews.com/us/20150620/1023613662.html#ixzz3djEXlSAC // The Prison State of America Dec 28, 2014 Chris Hedges, http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_prison_state_of_america_20141228 It does seem time has done worse to her. Diane described the stranger that shot them on the road and a police artist came up with a sketch. That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . The guy should have walked away from the case or from adopting them. Saudi Princesses in Captivity for More Than a Thousand and One Nights Are Tweeting the Blues, Having recently done research on the Liysa Northons case which was the subject of a book written by Ann Rule titled, Some 287 errors and falsehoods were documented by Liysa and verified by official sources. Christie was understandably all over the place and I agree that the way in which her statements were procured were very odd and seemed to be very coached. It seems that everyone commenting just knows shes guilty, like you say. Not an easy situation for him as I would imagine. Wasnt he the stranger? Everyone in the world can believe something. Some basic help and starters when you have to write a tribute to someone you love. There are 3 court records for "Robert Knickerbocker" in "Pima County". I understand that the authorities were afraid to leave the two remaining children under her care if they thought she was guilty, but they could have been released to the grandparents or other blood relatives with supervised visits from their mom considering that she was not charged with any crime. But the fact that the prosecutor called her a deviant sociopath in court without any assessment became another nail in her coffin. Not speculative? Resides in Woodlawn, TN. It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously. Plus, you do not let a newly appointed judge to criminal cases, preside over a high profile murder case when he has no experience whatsoever and has already prejudged the defendant dangerous to her children. http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf. The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. Whatever mental illness she has, has gotten worse with each hearing. The fruit of this abduction was the May 23, 1983, videotape re-enactment staged by Detective Tracy in which Diane is clearly hysterical. Diane Downs changed her story so many times, even at her parole hearing. Nothing came from Diane herself. Do you remember a couple of days after that, December She had a more than competent attorney and a fair trial before a jury and NOT the same judge who handled the childrens matters. But if you compare them, and if stranger there was, there are similarities but it is not dead on. Just similar stuff.and that I guess, makes it easy for me to see how that song could of fueled her up.never underestimate the power if a song..what feels intense and exciting to you, may not to another, but shoot, anytime I hear pink floyd run like hell.takes me right back 1991 in the heat of my chase..for me, I got the answers I wanted from 89 when my friend said that about the Duran song and it involved in that case. Considering that the daughter she murdered will never get a second chance, it will never be long enough unless its for her entire life. This unexpected proposal took Diane by surprise at a large family gathering. No, Im not that gullible, Okay, I just read that she faked throwing her keys. By the way, this not a Diane Downs is innocent blog. It is a lets examine the facts of the case with hindsight and try to explain some of the inconsistencies and the role of the media and crime writers. And lets wonder why the US think that letting people die in prison is the answer when most civilized countries have reached other conclusions. They seem to say she was like that from the very beginning so in my opinion, it should represent a mitigating circumstance instead of a longer sentence. Although the .22 used in the shootings was never found, police found unfired bullets in Downs home that had the same extractor marks as bullet casings found at the crime scene. So imagine when you are troubled to begin with. Dilantin is known to cause mental confusion and you can check it online, but consider the dosage she was on and it needs no clarification. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range. The lousy men in their lives never took a hit because after all, it was these witches fault. Guilty or not, the case was handled with prejudice and many errors occurred. Spiritual advancement and atonement? The US is a very strange bird when it comes to crime and punishment. Detective Welch reminded Diane of the assault her sister witnessed in February 1983, in which steve Downs broke Dianes tailbone (Appendix 74, page 1025). Phone Number: (520) 293-QPFP +2 phones. They were tons of witnesses that saw him at work. She followed all the correct Parole Boardprocedures for two years with no hearing. On the night of May 19, 1983, Downs was driving with her three children. The jury verdict was guilty on all counts, but there was a mixture of votes. There were many problems with her trial and that matters. I enjoyed your take, and agree their are several reasons with this, and lets be honestevery other case ever prosecuted, to take pause and question but Diane continues to lie, make up brand new stories about people after her, and has made no moves to better herself in any way shape or form while shes been in prison, by her own admission. Robert was a married man in Arizona with whom Diane had been having an affair, back when she was still living there. The DA adopting the children is an integral part of this and definitely needs to be included in the blog. It does not get any bigger than this. It has nothing to do with the facts of the case. Instead of talking about her being locked up for so long, answer some very legitimate questions regarding this case. The detective said to leave that up to the police. It is not my point. Once again, Diane said a lot of things. On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. She always seems to have not a very close contact with reality. That is pure bullshit. If personal diaries were to be believed, half of the population would be in great jeopardy. Too bad she did not interview Diane or her family. We dont know. She keeps her emotions under tight control, presenting only socially acceptable feelings and burying other contradictory feelings.. Other names that Robert uses includes Robert A Knickerbocker. We could say that it was suggestive on his part, but considering how this trial was conducted, I tend to believe it happened. Why arent you debating the faulty ballistics, and the fact that the gun they affirmed was used in the commission of the crime was not the right one? As a married man, the ball was in his court and he decided togo forit. I dont understand how the family court managed to isolate 2 severely traumatized and grievously injured children from their entire family. Rule defended her right to earn a living and to tell her story. Many troubling elements of the case were discovered after the trial, but there was enough during the proceedings to be asking questions. It appears that you have to be a perfect mother with no lovers and not afflicted with any mental illness to be considered innocent until proven guilty in America. Ruger #14-76187; described as the gun used by Diane and belonging to Steve Downs, was not the murder weapon. 2. Evidence continued to pile up against Diane Downs. Ur not showing facts that Ann Rule lied n misled n ruined lives with. During cross-examination, she said that she witnessed the murders while sitting up and that Cheryl was sitting up on the front seat when she got shot. Spokeo's database, while extensive, does not contain all U.S. warrant, arrest, court, or other related records. Diane doesnt believe Rebecca is her daughter, rather a media puppet ran by Rule. I personally disagree with that practice but it is common. Probably a 911 button. Diane was found guilty and sentenced to life and she has been in prison ever since. Did you read her statements to the parole board in 2008? Right away, the police asked her to go back to the crime scene even thoughshe did not want to leave her children behind. Hospital employees recall that Downs attitude was very strange and she seemed incredibly calm in spite of her tragic situation. But for what it is worth, I believe she tried to kill her 3 kids. Find 77 people named Robert Knickerbocker along with free Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok profiles on PeekYou - true people search. It surely was not due process. To Lisa Griggs Bear in mind, that arm consisted of two SHARP bones, cutting at nerves and muscle (1 of bone had been blown out of the arm when the bullet shattered it, leaving three jagged holes in the flesh, out of which bulged torn muscle, and two wedge shaped bones facing each other like dueling swords). In fact, I am surprised that people are not flabbergasted by the way this case was handled and tried and that what bothers them most is that I try to discuss it in a blog and dare defending this woman. Downs was expelled from the college after one year, reportedly for her promiscuity, and she returned home to Arizona and reconnected with Steve. Hello. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Legally speaking, we do not go after people because they look evil or crazy. 4. It is not a plus, but it is not a crime either. When Dianes youngest daughter, who was adopted after being taken away by the state, found out who her real mother was and decided to reach out to her, the media and Rule grabbed hold of her to promote their agenda. The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. Ask them what they did to a good man. For some people, the best send-off is one that they would have loved to attendthemselves: a big party. The implication was not only cruel, in the light of what Diane was suffering, it was also clear. If the adult can show capacity and willingness to provide care, love and nurturing to the children, then there is no legal reason to prevent them from becoming Foster Carers. So yes I think she did it, I think ration left her a long before she did itI think post pardum played in this, I think, she was scattered all over the map.againjust hearing it in her own words. Knick never signed the premarital agreement and Diane never married him. Robert has lived in Tucson, AZ in a single family house with Lori. This was ridiculed countless times in the media, but frankly, it can be a very honorable endeavor, depending onhow you want to look at it. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. Actor Robert Blake was found not guilty of the shooting murder of his wife. It really doesnt matter that much of the trial and due process was faulty, because its so obvious that Diane is the one who did it and that justice was served. Some of your facts arent facts at all. The next morning Diane appeared in the courtroom with a police report written by Detective Pond a year earlier, in which Ms. Patterson was sure Diane had gone nowhere near the bathroom the night of the shooting (Appendix 62). Don't know what in the world came over me, Christopher P. Stokes told a Wisconsin court. Diane ran away from her husband many times between 1976 and 1977, but with nowhere to go except her parents house, she would come back. WatchandWager will be operating harness racing at the Arizona Downs racetrack according to the terms of a newly signed deal. And she laughed at it by saying it was healthy to want to join the free world, especially if you proclaim your innocence. It was half baked escape plans that were more in her head than anything and that the media enjoyed blowing out of proportions. I mention in my blog that when her adoptive dad said that she was coerced and thats why she said she did not know who shot them, that of course she was because this is what she does when under pressure. Diane, of her own admission, had plenty of affairs while she worked at the Post Office. We will never know what really happened because the authorities acted too hastily and the media was a huge hindrance. He separated from his wife and was going to follow Diane who, by now, had decided to move and work in Oregon to be closer to her parents. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. The casing from the bullets exactly matched, just like a fingerprint, the bullets that Diane had in her home from her own gun which was never found. She was harshly judged because of her demeanor. Whats next? Resides in Scottsdale, AZ. Im not saying I know for a fact in my mind shes innocentbut there is NOT enough evidence for her to be guilty. The two mental disorders that cause excessive talking are Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia. Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book Small Sacrifices and her theory of the crime, but in reality, the case of Diane Downs was no small sacrifice. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. It was obvious to the cops and the prosecution because they proceeded to get her daughter to testify against her because they had nothing to prove she was the shooter. Instead of shooting the little kids, why didnt the carjacker/killer (CK) simply shoot DD dead and take her car? Diane found with him,the kind of relationship she had never known before: there was actually care and intimacy involved. It was in Mesa that Diane had an affair with a coworker and became pregnant yet again. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a deviant sociopath.. There was no question in Dianes mind that Knick would take another mistress if she married him, and that hed move on again. In hindsight Im sure the grandparents wish they had pursued visitation more aggressively. Some would say that Diane Downs was condemned because of her lies and inconsistencies, but I think that it was mostly because of her disturbing demeanor and brash personality. It took a lot of time to research this case and present the other side of the coin. Its more boring to tell the truth and the readers might not have flocked to read a fair story without no real heroes and villains. and so on. Robert Arthur Knickerbocker, age 60s, lives in Tucson, AZ. They already had made up their mind that Diane was the perpetrator so they laughed off the idea of the bushy haired stranger. The problem was that they could not find the gun anywhere and they had nothing on Diane. They checked her nails to see if she could have buried the gun and they were clean. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song, The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. Libby, I quoted what Diane said. Why? Have you actually read the transcript of the trial?? They should have looked for a possible accomplice and checked all the leads. Barry Sheck and bis crew of investigators should get involved. Now Diane Downs did not say any of this, but told a hard to believe story, and then changed it from one to two masked guys, etc. Mind: Wrongful convicted. Hysteria. ..maybe it was lack of Internet and cellies *shrug)..years later, my Co worker at burger King (I was 16)told me about the small sacrifices movie she watched the night before. They both fainted when they saw their dead child, but it did not count. When a white attractive woman like Diane Downs appears on the scene while displaying seemingly unpleasant characteristics as a mother and a personality disorder, there is no telling what the media will do with the story. As far as her innocence goes and the possibility of being paroled if she admitted her crime, Diane strongly maintains her innocence. That testimony was left unchallenged by Mr. Jagger. She functions best in highly structured environments where she has a sense of control. Leslie Van Houten is an example of a woman who probably will never see the light of day because of her high profile status. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business: argumentative It is called a conflict of interest. . I agree on many points with your comment. Phoenix, AZ 85006 Map . Thanks Kit, It is a bit of a mystery to me that not more people see that if we removed the high profile name and the accompanying media storm, the case was no slam dunk. Fair question. And the fact that Tracy wrote in his notes that Christies reaction could have been excitement to see her mom but they decided to only mention extreme fear? Read more: ABC News, ABC News (2), Salem News, Salem News (2), Oregon Live, The Washington Post, Murderpedia, Find Law. , The lovely Farrah Fawcett who played in the movie, Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book, Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), The Diane Downs Case Was no Small Sacrifice. Knickerbocker reported to the police that Downs had stalked him and seemed . 2) You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession: inflammatory Rule sued the Seattle Weekly after they published the article titled Ann Rules Sloppy Storytelling, but she lost and had to make restitution. I was shocked any asked why she thought that. From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. Justice is all that is left. Even on a worldwide scale, the age of accountability is considered to be twelve years old. This whole tale is just unbelievable. This is a more common route for children with parents who are incarcerated for what looks to be the entire childhood of the children. By the way, Dianes parents mourn the loss of their grandchildren to this day. . Not hard to go there. In fact, Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. In an interesting development, in 1986, Christie and Danny Downs were adopted by Fred Hugi, the lead prosecutor who put their mother behind bars for the rest of her life. Like I said, the 2 years make it a bit more of a gray area. They felt safe there. I am not sure of the exact timing of Dianes accusations but the Downs family did not only include the grandparents and they were never considered even before this nonsense. Instead of grieving, Alice went partying and had sex. I just tried to find a video or article about Hugi and I only get the one or two that I already have. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya. I do not have to put any statement advising people that I am about to present the neglected aspects of the trial. And I care about the lack of evidence. They were in foster care for two years before the prosecutor adopted them. Now in hindsight, seeing footage on youtube, especially the interview she did with the reporter Anne Jagger, the things she says and facial expression is exactly described in the bookhad to find the section in the book, but on that note, Anne rule did site that interview correctly. So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety. The courts were divided in the 80s, family court, traffic court, criminal court, juvenile court I dont believe they ran out of judges to preside over them all. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. Hi Nanette, it is not a matter of being gullible. And Robert Knickerbocker became one of her lovers. Likewise, Charlene had no intention of letting Knick divorce her (Appendix 81, page 1518, line 15). In fact, if someone was Hungry like the Wolf in this courtroom, it was a certain crime author who could already smell and taste the fortune coming her way after the publication of this juicy story. I guess Diane forgot to have that part engraved on the Unicorn. Her lover and former husband testified against her but it did not represent evidence but character assassination. It was pitch black outside. She had been the bread winner for most of her marriage, and never wavered in her desire to bring financial stability to her family. You left and you and Diane Downs spent an evening at a motel? That didnt seem right so we wrote a letter to Mr Hugi with a request for visitation rights. Diane and her family fought for them but were blocked from day one. Why on earth would anyone recommend leaving the kids with the grandparents? More often than not, Christie was interviewed by State Agents (Paula Krogdahl, Paul Alton, Steve Downs and Dick Tracy) within half an hour of having her Dilantin increased. Diane downs. It is because she is a high profile person. I think that she has done enough time and should be released. Mission accomplished. Diane Downs's boyfriend, Robert Knickerbocker was never a suspect or a person of interest in the case. Robert has resided in Tucson, AZ in a mobile / manufactured home with Tommy. This blog is riddled with inconsistencies, suppositions and a lack of the most basic referencing (e.g. Someone can have an evil vibe and not be guilty of a crime. Do not take this so personally. Facebook gives people. He knows as he was in court and must have photos. I dont. Diane Downs and Alice Crummins were considered sluts and cold-blooded women and were judged on their unusual character. They should have left her alone. I cant believe anyone even believes or even follows you. UNLOCK PROFILE. And Hugi seemed pretty sure he would get what he was asking for. Fred Hugi is a man of the highest integrity and I hope that Dianes surviving two children finally found the love and stability they had been denied by their natural mother. Diane now had the title of dangerous offender. Diane followed the detectives to their car. After six weeks in Oregon where the children were happily spending time with their grandparents while Diane worked her postal route, the incident happened on a dark road that led to Diane being accused of murder and attempted murder. So I did not post your comment about his answer to your inquiry. Her case was too public and they are afraid of public backlash. None of this is EVIDENCE of anything in regard to the murder trial, and not once did I read that it was. I have simply bothered researching the evidence and in some instances, the lack of it. Her arm was severely damaged, so shattered that she needed a graft from a hip bone. Rule made up stories to sell books and the rights to a movie. And she should be allowed parole! Years later, seven witnesses signed affidavits telling of a man named Jim Haynes continuing confessionthat he wasthe shooter, and his appearance boresimilarities to the sketch. Christie became the star witness against her mother and who could resist such a touching testimony? As you might know, Dianes father passed away after many years of anguish over the fate of his daughter. Without her daughters testimony and the lies about the gun, they could not have found her guilty in a fair trial. Ive not seen the movie or read the book. 4. The lawsuit against Ann Rule was thrown out as unfounded because after reading her book they could find no inconsistencies She sat thru the entire trial AND used actual court transcripts. They dont need to be adopted and have their entire identity changed. She even provided the police with her own sketch. If you shoot at least 6 inches from a victim, you see what is around you in the car. Because Foote was already familiar with the case, the presiding judge assigned him the murder trial after Downs was charged with the shootings. I think that Van Houten was recommended for parole by a system that assessed that after 40 years, she was not a threat to society and a reformed woman. Foote then handled the juvenile docket and first encountered Downs when he ordered her two surviving children into state protective custody. It seems that the Downs were totally ignored. Other Locations Watertown, NY Scottsdale, AZ . In fact, with her continuing to deny committing the crime or expressing remorse, she may never get out. Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. Problem with that is Diane has said during an interview with detectives that the sketch looks nothing like what she described. 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