New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You have permission to edit this article. Usually, a politician is from a political party, which is a group that shares common beliefs and goals. Politics, whatever you think of it, requires a certain mindset and a certain set of skills that most likely don't exist in minimum wage workers. Elected politicians should be paid well because their time is taken away from them and they have uproot themselves from their homes. "Let's be clear. But if you give them nothing, they will be able to sympathize and understand the problems of the people, especially the poor if they have experienced the reality of it. this is a good question, should ALL politicians be paid minimal wage? Just last year, after attending closed-door briefings regarding the economic fallout that would accompany the coronavirus, three of those assholes sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stock before the market could crash. Though, I agree that it would make it significantly worse. People running for office must be able to think critically to come up with a solution when there is a problem. More than half of Americans who favor a $15 federal minimum wage (54%) say that if there is not enough congressional support for such an increase this year, Congress should prioritize increasing the wage even if the new wage is significantly less than $15. A job which always carries considerable responsibility and often involves genuinely arduous duties. Lower-income Republicans (46%) are much more likely than middle- (23%) and upper-income Republicans (18%) to say they favor raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour. Each pay grade has its own salary range, and employees get paid, in part, based on how long they've been employed. It's . Oftentimes when you have the federal government or others step in and start to raise minimum wage, what happens is you take away or reduce some peoples opportunity to grab the bottom rung of the economic ladder to get the opportunities and the skills that you need to move up that economic ladder. Kevin Madden on CNNs State of the Union on Dec. 1, I think the minimum wage will be the centerpiece of the State of Union. The politicians that would run for office at minimum wage pay would do it to change things for the better because they surly would not be making lots of money. Shakespheare is outdated. Do it for minimum wage. On one hand, that doubling increased the logarithm of the number of parties that field a candidate by 41% of a standard deviation, thereby providing the voters with a broader choice of political platforms, the researchers write. For the money of course. The state legislators main function is to make a law that caters to the needs of the state. If a politician is given too much authority, they may abuse it. Half of our congresspeople are millionaires, three of those assholes sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stock before the market could crash, When running for office they must divulge to the public, There needs to be a limit on how much money any individual is allowed to donate to a campaign. Those who did enter politics would either be really bad at it or very crooked. In 2009, the European Parliament implemented a flat-salary payment system, and all MEPs began to earn identical annual salaries of 90,000, equal the researchers note, "to 38.5% of a salary of a judge at the European Court of Justice." Writer. Around 334 of the parish's 2,400 classified employees or roughly 14%earn less than $15 per hour, according to a presentation The Archer Group gave before the parish's Personnel Board in October. Unfortunately, the increase apparently did little to improve how much effort politicians put into their jobs. And, you're right. He has to go. But they should not have other employment as consultants, executive directors of shell companies or whatever. The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights . But the increase didnt similarly influence the reelection decisions of higher-quality MEPs, who had better job prospects outside of politics. In fact, according to the law, 18 USC 3056 the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect: The president and the vice president and their families, cabinet officials, White House chief of staff, and National Security Adviser. When dealing with their employees and constituents, they should also display good analytical, creative, and communication abilities. Similarly, Republicans who live in areas where the state minimum wage is $12 or higher are slightly more likely than those living in places where the $7.25 federal minimum wage applies to say they favor raising the federal minimum to $15 an hour (32% vs. 25%). Are you saying motivation for change comes only from injustice? According to a study by Professor Emir Kamenica, along with colleagues from Columbia University, Princeton University, and DONG Energy, raising politicians salaries is unlikely to result in better governance. or maybe when they first start out, they get minimal wage, and if they do a good job then get a raise by a vote by the people they represent and if they do a bad job then they get fired no, people should want to help their people no matter what they get paid i'm going to take TL's side on this one. The president is in command of the military and has the power to reject or approve the legislation. Or, more accurately, the people hoarding all the resources would have you believe it will go downhill. It's time for members of Congress to act. Last year,New Orleans bumpedits city workers up to a $15 hourly minimum wage and its now requiring that city contractors to do the same for their employees. If that is to happen, it must be possible for anyone to become an elected representative. In addition, being a politician is working with your brain. Still, a majority of lower-income Republicans (54%) say they oppose such an increase. Of the 3,313 positions Jefferson Parish budgeted for 2023, at least 679 are vacant, Dumas said. But politiciansnot market forcesare responsible for setting their own salary levels, one reason why the political labor market veers toward irrationality. Yet the minimum wage is not enough to realistically live on in this country. Heres whats going to happen: Theyre going to have to lay people off. Gov. Getting paid is one way to pay off all their hard work to serve the nation. Arguments with the highest score are displayed first. Consider where we might be by now in terms of creating a fairer distribution of wealth and a more equal society. It's not like they're flipping burgers, guys. Related post: When it comes to raising the minimum wage, most of the action is in cities and states, not Congress. A $10-hour minimum wage boosts. Many people do not realize that many politicians make 6 figures (well over $100,000.00) a year. If that is the case, politicians will be representative of those people in the upper class and leave poor people behind. Create an account here on Off Topix. People that are driven to make a difference do not need money to be motivated, just ask our teachers. I'd like to see the data that supports your statement that politicians are smarter than janitors and wal-mart cashiers - what is your baseline? Reader. How much are politicians paid in your country? Most people will never see this kind of money over their entire lifetimes. Politicians are human too. In the past politician have even gone without pay well i say they should stop spending our money on stupid unnecessary things like trips over seas. Councilmember Byron . I would suggest, however, that this and other instances of entrenched social inequity will not be more effectively or more speedily corrected by making our democracy work even less well than it does. Parish hires consultant to study pay plan, Jefferson councilman: Its shameful parish department doesnt recommend increasing parish workers minimum wage, The New Orleans City Council ratifies $15 hourly minimum wage for city workers, 'Living wage' rate for city contractors backed by New Orleans City Council; see pay changes. What argument are you trying to support, defend, or dispute with this question? Chris Christie on the proposed now passed New Jersey minimum wage increase on June 8, The difference between the very wealthy and the working poor has grown. My mum teaches little kids and let me tell you what you already knowthe pay sucks. Minimum wage violations. In democratic countries, people can have a say in how their nation is managed by voting for their preferred member of parliament. Say you see someone being treated unfairly, are you motivated to help them, or since you are not directly in the situation you lack the motivation to change the situation? Take a poll about whether politicians should get a raise, and the result is likely to be a resounding, No. Now theres empirical research to support that response. New Orleans pays city workers at least $15 per hour. one thing to have to pay for pot holes, it's another thing to have to pay for politicians and poor people. Minimum wage should be enough that anyone can afford at least basic shelter and necessities with a little room for saving or emergency expenses. That sounds like an easy way to increase corruption through bribery. That should alarm you. They could find a similar level of power and control elsewhere while having more money. Politicians can be elected through voting, which happens in democratic countries or they can be appointed by a leader. Well, politicians have to work and support their families also. Don't get me wrong, I think that all government workers should receive major cuts in pay and benefits, but our leaders making minimum wage? Here are the questions used for the report, along with responses, and its methodology. In our minds we have clear images of what a kindergarten teacher is like, and we have clear images of what a politician is like. Social imbalances are rarely, if ever, corrected quickly. Good job. But even so, all of the people you've mentioned were victims of injustices. It is important that our health and social care workers be properly paid. Heres what some of the biggest names in Washington are saying about the topic. Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Harriet Tubman, the suffragettes; I would argue that Martin Luther King wasn't after a pay check - you can look to history to discover a diverse population of human beings that have shown us the way to accomplish change, social justice, and equality. We all make sacrifices for the things we truly care about, and if you want the responsibility of governing your neighbours you need to be willing to let go of some thingslike the prospect of becoming rich. It is a commitment. Unlike the private sector, in a classified system, "you can't just fix the bottom rung," Lee Sheng noted. that makes no sense and did not answer what i said oh sorry, I went into "big picture" mode, those 206 days ago that I wrote that. Change). Reblogged this on Ramblings of a now 60+ Female. Lastly, congressional pay should be tied to the minimum wage. We welcome anyone and everyone to register & become a member of our awesome community. Lastly, you have the problem of corruption. They are in charge of the administration, appointing and dismissing department heads. About Pew Research Center Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping the world. You can easily lookup any district by putting in your zip code to see who all is running for what. So, you should also be open-minded and be able to cope with criticism because as mentioned, people can have a say on how you manage the nation. Politicians will raise the minimum wage to whatever they are comfortable being paid, how many people would lose their jobs if minimum wage was raised to $50/hr. In addition, they continue to receive the same pay even after they are out of office as part of their retirement plan. For instance, a large company wants to build a factory that produces harmful chemicals but needs a safety permit from the government. In addition, as a politician, you are always in the spotlight. Joe Cunningham ran as a Democrat that I honestly believe is way more conservative than progressive. For their job as the states chief executive, they are paid between $70,000 and $201,000. If being a politician is not paid at all, we will prevent greedy and selfish politicians from entering politics who only want monetary incentives and do not care about their people. Now its time for the nearly 3.5 million workers in California and 30 million workers nationwide who work in low-wage jobs to get a raise. Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.) in a local op-ed on April 6, Raising minimum wage doesnt just benefit the workers behind me, it creates a proven ripple effect that increases wages all the way up the scale. movement. so i guess we should pay doctors only minimum wage because we want the doctors who want to do it PURELY for the fun amrite? To vote for an argument, use these icons: Debate scores, side scores and tag scores are automatically calculated by an algorithm that primarily takes argument scores into account. Jefferson Parish President Cynthia Lee Sheng pictured here on Wednesday, Oct. 5, 2022. If they are getting paid for their work, that is one of their motivations to serve their people better even if they are in a difficult situation. The mayor has veto (can overrule other votes) authority over the council, which has legislative power. A countrys political system reflects the peoples way of living. But that is just another manifestation of systemic social imbalance that is yet to be fully or adequately rectified.). Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. To follow along, you may find it helpful to. All politicians should be paid minimum wage. Why should any law maker be allowed anywhere near the stock market, then? Pedophiles were victims should we give them power? I sure love being able to bribe a politician with a couple hundred bucks! While Democrats are largely united in their support for increasing the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, Republicans views differ by household income. The individual in need donates or gives something of value to sway an officials actions while performing his public obligations. But since you like studies so much and not a debate on subjective shit, here's a study showing how people are more likely to donate their organs if they are offered money. Just like the other workers, they are motivated to work harder if we get paid for what they work on. Leaving room for only rich people to become politicians. Parish Council member Byron Lee said paying parish workers a "livable" wage of $15 per hour is the "right thing to do" and will help the parish attract and retain its employees. The case for paying health and social care workers a wage commensurate with the vital nature of the service they provide stands on its own merits. Bribery occurs when someone bribes a government official to make a judgment in their favour. We raise that minimum wage and we move forward with the vision of this president that we have, which is everyone pays their fair share. Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) on Aug. 26, The minimum wage has not kept pace with rising costs. Like 200% of average or whatever. Councilmember Byron Lee speaks at a Jefferson Parish Council meeting in Gretna on Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2020. Accept Cookies. 2 thoughts on " Should politicians be paid less? If they were paid so little, they would change the monetary system would have to reflect it. My thoughts exactly. All we have is the IQ test, which kind of sucks. Or those willing to become corrupt and accept bribes. Pew Research Center conducted this study understand Americans views on raising the standard federal minimum wage. In addition, some politicians see politics as a family career or business because of the high amount of money you can get from it. Exactly. Thinker. If You Want Better Politicians, Pay Them Less, Pay Politicians 500,000 Each per Year and Maybe Wed Get Better Quality MPs, Images of people used under license from Generated Photos. Serving as a politician is supposed to be a service to your country. Doing so would generate increased competition between candidates, attract better applicants, and secure better politicians. But their ambition should be driven by a desire to help people, not to become rich. A minimum wage of $4.25 per hour applies to young workers under the age of 20 during their first 90 consecutive calendar days of employment with an employer, as long as their work does not displace other workers. By contrast, 36% of White adults who favor a $15 minimum wage say Congress should keep pressing for that amount. as for minimum wage, i actually sort of like that since we are the ones paying for their salaries. Gov. The majority of English language students are curious about languages and cultures. A political system that functions well has excellent public services such as health and education. Please review Chicago Booth's privacy notice, which provides information explaining how and why we collect particular information when you visit our website. minimum wage for congress is a cute idea for propaganda purposes, but it's really not realistic. Maybe a salary increase would at least inspire politicians to work harder? In other nations, a system with corruption and incompetence leads to poor public services. The presidency is the highest elected position. Talker. They can seek the privileges of power and influence that come with political posts in government at their own expense if they want them. What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S. What the data says about abortion in the U.S. Are you in the American middle class? It can also be unfair. Doubling an MEPs salary decreased by 15% the chance that an MEP had attended a college ranked in the top 500 in the world. He is up for re election in 2020. But this basic American value no longer applies to millions of hardworking Americans because the real value of the federal minimum wage has been allowed to fall sharply over the years. Being a politician is indeed a tough job. Listener. That is an interesting idea. We could all live comfortably, even the shelf stockers at Wal-Mart. As for pedophiles, i already made the point. Giving MPs a salary was an essential corrective to the grotesque imbalance that inevitably developed when politics was exclusive a rich mans game. It last overhauled its pay plan in 2019. Also the fringe benefits are just out of control. (LogOut/ Wages have increased due to worker shortages, pushing entry-level jobs to $15 an hour or more. with the raise of minimum wage, it won't exactly increase spending but just help with spending in very specific areas. Kicking your kid out as soon as they turn 18 is abusive. "We can't compete with the private sector, but we want to make sure that our salaries are consistent and competitive with other municipalities," said John Dumas, the parish's personnel director. In addition, working as a politician you get almost everything for free. You're implying that I'm a person who would be motivated to help someone with asking if I would help them or not and all are you suggesting that I'm a better person than politicians? I don't think politicians should be paid minimum wage necessarily, but rather an average of what their constituents earn. I'm saying that true motivation for change comes from something past profit, and can't be measured by paying these people minimum wage. This petition starter stood up and took action. Some senators, including several Democrats, support a more modest increase in the wage. There are more than enough of all resources to go around to everyone, but in the current situation things will go downhill if the slightest thing is changed. From April this year, the hourly rate for earners aged 21 to 2 is 9.18 an hour, up from 8.36. White adults, by contrast, are divided: 51% favor raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour including just 30% who strongly favor it while 48% oppose it. Everything you do, eyes are watching you. Let's raise the minimum wage to a living wage! Do we need ambitious representatives? Learn how your comment data is processed. If you go somewhere housing is cheap, minimum wage is less to reflect that. Seems like paying them less wouldnt help with this. The parish would need to spend another $8.4 million to address the resulting wage compression among workers already making more than $15 per hour, The Archer Group estimated. Other questions:subscriberservices@theadvocate.com. They are after all are supposed to be public servants. But they shouldnt be allowed to become millionaires and govern society. The point is, one of the priorities of the politicians would become: Making minimum wage a living wage. And it is a process. But it is also important to ensure that any one of those people can bring the interests of those workers as well as their own knowledge and experience into the system by which public policy is developed and decided. The only people who would want to be politicians at that point would be the people who ACTUALLY want to help. About seven-in-ten adults who live in lower-income households (72%) say they favor raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour, including about half (52%) who strongly favor such an increase. Without the minimum wage worker, many corporations would not exist. We might even be paying a fitting wage to health and social care workers. Nowadays, any working class person can aspire to become an elective representative. As such it was a position only available to the very wealthy, who then used it to become wealthier. You need to possess qualities that will enable you to overcome the issues your country is facing. Since then, however, the labor market has changed considerably. While many other people work using their physical strength daily at work, politicians spend most of their time in their office or attending meetings. What should the maximum salary per year be for politicans? This petition will be shared with Rep Cunningham and other interest groups. Read more about the ATPs methodology. Argument replies (both in favor and in opposition) are displayed below the original argument. Furthermore it would drastically shrink the number of people who run for elections in the exact opposite way you would likely hope for. And you got me, senor einstein. Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. Tonight, lets declare that in the wealthiest nation on Earth, no one who works full-time should have to live in poverty, and raise the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour. President Barack Obama in the State of the Union on Feb. 12. I think this would be a good way to make sure that people get into politics to make things change for the better. So yes, lowering wages for politicians would solve many problems. How Restaurant Workers Help Pay for Lobbying to Keep Their Wages Low The National Restaurant Association uses mandatory $15 food-safety classes to turn waiters and cooks into unwitting funders of its battle against minimum wage increases. That is the whole point. There will be more corruption if politicians are not getting paid for their work. I think it should be the centerpiece of the State of the Union. The researchers analyze the change in composition and behavior of MEPs who received a higher salary as a result of the parliaments new payment system. A growing number of major cities and states have set their own wage floors at $15. They do minimal work on purpose, they only ever fight for the people who pay them the most, they only do it for the paycheck and the pension, and they never feel any type of guilt about it. How easy would it be to corrupt the government then? 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